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2007-01-11T05:24:00.000-07:00

Hi Jacob

Yes, Gramadóir is a perl module, so it is completely cross-platform, and should be easily-installable for end-users once someone does the initial development work to write rules for that specific language. Kevin Scannell does a lot of work in natural-language processing, so I believe the background is fairly robust.

I'll try emailing the only address I can find for you (?), in case you want to follow up the technical aspects in more detail than below.

Insofar as I understand your access query, Gramadóir does its own tokenising (I think based on rules derived from the words found by the Crubadán crawler, but Kevin Scannell could comment on this in more detail). So you basically feed it a text file:
gram-cy.pl tests1.txt
or you can echo text into it:
echo "y pobl" | gram-cy.pl
The latter is the one I use in Klebran.

Output is available in a variety of formats. The default will print to the terminal, so using the echo line above:
1: y pobl
Lenition missing
(that is, "pobl" should read "bobl" in this context)
The output messages can be given in any language that Gramadóir has a po-file for, by adding the flag --interface=xx (where xx is the two-letter language name).

The --api flag will give output in a pseudo-XML format:
{E offset="0" fromy="1" fromx="0" toy="1" tox="5" sentence="y pobl " errortext="y pobl" msg="Lenition missing"}
(Because of the posting issues with HTML, the curly brackets in this post stand for angle brackets.)

The --xml flag will give a proper XML format:
{?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" standalone="no"?}
{!DOCTYPE teacs SYSTEM "http://borel.slu.edu/dtds/gram-cy.dtd"}
{teacs}
{line} {E msg="SEIMHIU"}{T}y{/T} {N pl="n" gnd="f" m="0"}pobl{/N}{/E} {/line}
{/teacs}
This is the one used in Klebran, since it makes easily accessible a great deal of the part-of-speech information from the back-end tagged wordlist.

The --html flag will give a HTML format:
{br}{br}1: {b class=gramadoir}y pobl{/b} {br}
Lenition missing
Kevin Scannell has recently suggested creating XSLT stylesheets to convert the XML output into other formats, overtaking the HTML output option.

The above refers to the grammar-checking, which of course, in contrast to spellcheckers, rarely works on the basis of single words/tokens. However, as part of this, Gramadóir flags words that it cannot find in its lexicon, and makes some guesses about those too. For instance, it may suggest that a word seems to be foreign, because it contains a sequence of letters that occur only rarely in the language in question. Or it may suggest that an unknown hyphenated word is a compound of two others that it does know. And anything that's left (simplifying!) will be flagged as unknown, and therefore likely a spelling mistake (the "likely" will only apply, of course, if the lexicon is big enough!).

In Klebran, I do a search on these words against the full dictionary (Eurfa), since that way I can provide meanings, but you can instead pass Gramadóir the --aspell flag, which will suggest corrections for misspellings from an aspell file for the language.

I hope this gives a bit more background, and that I have not misrepresented anything - I will alert Kevin Scannell and the Gramadóir list to this page, so that they can add comments if necessary. It might be more efficient to take things forward by email, however.

It would be very interesting to try to take this forward. Ideally, if the Elixir interface is sufficiently comprehensive, it would allow a lot of the work already done in Gramadóir to be bootstrapped into desktop end-user applications.

Kevin Donnelly

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2007-01-10T11:43:00.000-07:00

Kevin: Thanks, An Gramadóir looks very interesting.

I'm currently creating an interface for grammar checkers. It is called Elixir. This interface will allow one to write a plugin for An Gramadóir. It looks like the grammar checker is a perl module, so the plugin would have to call a perl executable or link to an embedded perl library.

To begin email me how your checkers are accessed, in whatever (programming) language you use.

An example:

bool checkWord(string myMord)

so using this would work like:

if ( checkWord("word") )
print("correct spelling")

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2007-01-10T07:54:00.000-07:00

Glad to see your rolling this into a spec. I'm so tired of OOo and Mozilla and everything else using different spell checkers and differrent PWLs. I am also very interested in spell checking and related themes.

At Translate.org.za we've developed spell checkers of varying quality :) for the 11 official languages of South Africa.

I'd like to know what we need to supply to get languages guessing working in Sonnet for those languages. Can you write a blog entry on what you need?

One thing I would love is that users can submit their personaly dictionaries for possible inclusion into the formal dictionary. Every time someone adds a word to a personal dictionary there is a chance that it should go into the official one. We could create a poweful network of dictionary improvers.

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2007-01-10T03:11:00.000-07:00

Hi Jacob
I read about Sonnet with interest - this is the first time I've heard of it. How difficult would it be to link up backends to it? Kevin P Scannell has developed a grammar checker for Irish which I am porting to Welsh, and which could be adapted for a number of minority languages (http://borel.slu.edu/gramadoir). He also has a web-crawling project going to collect words from minority languages (something like 180 currently), which could then be used to build spell-checkers (http://borel.slu.edu/crubadan/index.html).
My Welsh version of the spellchecker provides meanings for each of the alternatives (based on a GPL dictionary I'm (slowly!) putting together - http://www.eurfa.org.uk), and I've done a draft web-interface at http://www.klebran.org.uk (alpha only - not finished yet). How difficult would it be to try adapting these to the Sonnet interface? I know nothing of C++ programming, so I'm at a complete loss as to where to begin!
Kevin Donnelly

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